Auctions, bids, and prices
Bubbles, FC Sunnyvale
6 March 2009, 11:25
Here at Virtual Manager, we put a lot of effort into ensuring that everyone can play the game in a cheat-free environment. Recently we have spent a great deal of time improving the tools that our crew of Cheat Hunters use, which means that, today, the average response time on cheat reports has been reduce to 1-3 days.
However, we sometimes see examples of clubs who are sanctioned with fines or bannings because they gave in to temptation and accepted a bid for a player which was far above market value. Many clubs forget about the [url=/about/rules]rule against trading players at prices far above their market value[/url] when they see a really high bid one of their players.
The last thing we want is to ban clubs who don't really intend to cheat, so we have recently made some improvements to the auction system, which will reduce the risk of inadvertently breaking the rules:
[list] If a player is on the transfer list, then the first bid on the player cannot exceed the transfer list price (previously, you could bid far more than the transfer list price, which only makes sense if you're trying to cheat). Of course, you can still set your [b]auto bid[/b] as high as you want. Your initial bid on a player who is currently on auction, cannot exceed the current auction price + 1 credit. Of course, you can still set your [b]auto bid[/b] as high as you want. [/list] While these changes won't eliminate overpriced player sales, they will help honest clubs avoid breaking the rules inadvertently.
The net result will be that fewer clubs will be banned for cheating, when they didn't really intend to. For honest clubs who are looking to buy a new player for their team, the consequences will be negligible, since buyers are obviously not interested in buying players a prices far above market values, anyway.
Comments
will the selling club get fined/banned if this were to happen (i.e. a youth valued at say 10000 with good potential eventually being sold for eg 1,000,000)?
unts for players not worth that much? i saw a team sell a player worth 10,000 for 43 million,
For those that don't get it.
If you see a player that you want who is valued at 10,000c (for argument sake) and his current auction price is 1c, you can no longer put your first bid in at 20,000c, however you can put your Auto Bid in at 20,000c.
What was happening with cheats is they would bit 200,000c on this player as their first bid. Now they could bid 200,000c as their Auto but it is likley that no one else in the game would want to bid on a player that is worthless so they would only sell him for a fair price.
Just week ago this club, not going to mention names, put a 150.000 bid on 1 of my players which was worth 33.000, and I was tempted, but I wasn't doing the right thing if I accepted!!!
Guys just think about fare enough that you want a player but is it really worth it???
If a club wants to bid 500.000 Credits for your player, he can, using the auto bid. The change is, that he can now no longer bid 500.000 unless others clubs also are bidding on the player.
This makes it hard for cheaters (with more than one club) to transfer Credits.
Before this change it could be done easily by just bidding millions for a crappy players and thus transferring Credits to your "mother club". This is not so easy to do anymore! :-)
Another problem is the fact, that our player value estimator is not good enough - it simply can't predict players values well enough. We're also working on a new player value estimator to solve this issue. This will make it easier for new clubs.
Making more steps to eliminate idiotic cheaters!
Millfield FC
its there money not ours
there isn't much difference is it??
and of course their is those who just want to cheat,
my goals are simple promotion every 4 seasons, well it takes me that long to earn enough credits to buy some good players (LOL)
bum hole
bum hole
and no its a crap rule
Of course - if the cheaters have TWO clubs they'd be able to send two bids and then push the bid up.
I know that this change does not solve this problem. But it makes it harder than before to do something like this, as you know need two clubs. This also makes it harder for us to discover when someone has done this to damage another club on purpose.
I have seen Talent players being sold for 20-40million credits because they have serious talent and the big clubs want to pick them up early.
I have just created a Talent who I believe will have serious potential and have put his minimum price at 3,000,000c, purely because i dont want to sell him, but if i have to, i will want lots of money for him.
If someone bid 3,000,000 for him (even though he is only valued at 4,500 after his first update) and i accepted it, would i get banned?