Brexit: Pantomime season ...

A Tribe Called Quest wrote:

Also, it’s interesting to note that in general the more highly educated you are, the less likely you were to vote leave.

Harlem Heroes wrote:

Being highly educated is clearly not an indicator of either ability or intelligence.

A Tribe Called Quest wrote:

Harlem Heroes wrote:

Being highly educated is clearly not an indicator of either ability or intelligence.

A) I didn’t say it was.
B) if they were less educated, we might be in an even worse way.

Lateside united wrote:

No Pukki No Party wrote:

Rabinowitz FC wrote:

we have the power if used correctly. We are the biggest importer of German cars (mega buisness) biggest importer of French and Italian wines and we export over half our food to the eu so yes we are in a very powerful position. Mrs mays deal is the best possible as the eu don't want to give the uk anything and just want to take take take. All from unelected morons. Corbyn would have crumbled under such pressure. The fact we do most of our trade outside of the eu to is another plus point. The eu won't reform and they fully know they need the uk more than the uk need the eu.

We have no power and if you think we do then you're delusional I'm afraid.

Does the EU want a deal? Sure. Do they NEED a deal? Absolutely not. Is keeping the Union secure more important and more valuable to them? Absolutely.

Does Britain want a deal? Yes. Do we NEED a deal? Well, that kind of depends if you think tanking our entire economy is a good idea. Most would say it is not a good idea so yes, we absolutely need a deal. India and Australia have already tried to pull our pants down because they know that we're desperate to do some deals. Why is it that Britain always ends up on the short end of negotiations if we're so powerful and important? Ah, that'll be because actually, we're not that important and nobody really gives a toss if we go under. Negotiation from a position of desparation is only ever going to end one way.

The problem you have, is you're equating our individual imports and exports against EU countries singularly, when in fact, you need to compare them against the EU as a single entity. Our market value ain't that high. In fact, it's far lower than ever now that they've got the deals with Japan and Canada through.

This logic of the nasty EU bullying us is symptomatic of the delusion I'm afraid. They're negotiating with us from a position of strength vs our position of desparation. It's literally EXACTLY as the remainers said it would be. They can't give us a good deal because it would undermine the entire idea of the EU, and furthermore, why on Earth would they when they don't need us?

They literally don't need us, and we desparately need them. If you can't see that, then you need to do some more research, or maybe get a better understanding of geo-politics. If they needed us then do you not think that the UK would have emerged with a rather better deal than the sham May is trying to bribe through the commons? Common sense should tell you that if they genuinely needed us more than we needed them, then we would have got some kind of decent deal done that suited all sides.

can I ask why you say we? Your Polish not English

Rabinowitz FC wrote:

I ain't going to explain why no Deal is rhe best deal as your clearly closeted and I don't have time for narrow minded ness

Rängers Football Club wrote:

This is right up there with one of the most boring forum threads I've ever read.

10/15 minutes of my life I won't get back.

CF Galacticos wrote:

Rabinowitz FC wrote:

I ain't going to explain why no Deal is rhe best deal as your clearly closeted and I don't have time for narrow minded ness

Just saying "my mate told me" isn't a very compelling argument, myself (and I presume many others) are open minded to hearing the thought process of those on the other side of the debate, so please do divulge us the details as to why no deal is the best outcome

Rabinowitz FC wrote:

CF Galacticos wrote:

Rabinowitz FC wrote:

I ain't going to explain why no Deal is rhe best deal as your clearly closeted and I don't have time for narrow minded ness

Just saying "my mate told me" isn't a very compelling argument, myself (and I presume many others) are open minded to hearing the thought process of those on the other side of the debate, so please do divulge us the details as to why no deal is the best outcome

My friend is high up in the eu politically so yes I think I do know what I'm talking about. Not going to say why as no one really cares about it

Rabinowitz FC wrote:

CF Galacticos wrote:

Rabinowitz FC wrote:

I ain't going to explain why no Deal is rhe best deal as your clearly closeted and I don't have time for narrow minded ness

Just saying "my mate told me" isn't a very compelling argument, myself (and I presume many others) are open minded to hearing the thought process of those on the other side of the debate, so please do divulge us the details as to why no deal is the best outcome

My friend is high up in the eu politically so yes I think I do know what I'm talking about. Not going to say why as no one really cares about it