STATS: Points needed for each position

In the 926 Premier League seasons on vman, 590 unique clubs (excluding deleted clubs) have played in the Premier League.

The table below shows the all-time Premier League standings (16 teams with most points):



bordtennis has played the most Premier League matches at 21,452.
botdtennis also has the most Premier League points at 40,436.
liverpools year has the best Premier League GD at 16,564.
Skellet has the worst Premier League GD at -2,753.
The Virus has the best Premier League points per game at 2.88.

In the Premier League, an array of now deleted teams have collectively played 129,262 matches with a total GD of -16,370 and points total of 170,943.

Cant Score wrote:

HB Køge wrote:

How did you get the dataset? Is there a way to download it or did you manually type in everything?

Apologies for the delayed response.

You could load each webpage and copy the data manually. However, to speed up the process I utilised automated web scraping.

Whilst typing an initial response to your question it prompted me to first check with the admins that this is allowed. They confirmed this is fine as long as there is not an unnecessary amount of requests in a very small amount of time.

I'm happy to share the dataset. So far I've collected data on just the Premier League and Superligaen. I will look to do the remaining 12 countries top division at a later date then stop.

I would love to get the dataset if possible, and just play around with it. You are very welcome to send me a PM, if/when you have time.

Cant Score wrote:

In the 926 Premier League seasons on vman, 590 unique clubs (excluding deleted clubs) have played in the Premier League.

The table below shows the all-time Premier League standings (16 teams with most points):



bordtennis has played the most Premier League matches at 21,452.
botdtennis also has the most Premier League points at 40,436.
liverpools year has the best Premier League GD at 16,564.
Skellet has the worst Premier League GD at -2,753.
The Virus has the best Premier League points per game at 2.88.

In the Premier League, an array of now deleted teams have collectively played 129,262 matches with a total GD of -16,370 and points total of 170,943.

Id love an u23 version of this too

The below shows the most successful teams in the Premier League (England) by calendar year in terms of both total points and number of league titles won. N.B. This is excluding now deleted teams.

2007 - Points
1. FC Porto - 892
2. Hyænerne FC - 360
3. BIF UNITED - 333

2007 - Titles
N/A - Only now deleted clubs won the Premier League in 2007.

2008 - Points
1. Skodping FC - 2,537
2. Thorshammer United - 1,197
3. Skellet - 741

2008 - Titles
1. Team Lokvenc - 2
2. Skodping FC - 1
3. N/A

2009 - Points
1. bordtennis - 3,054
2. Thorshammer United - 2,088
3. Andet Holdet - 1,096

2009 - Titles
1. Andet Holdet - 7
2. Team Lokvenc - 2
3. FC Gullwings - 1

2010 - Points
1. bordtennis - 3,414
2. FC HimmelBold - 2,873
3. york - 1,750

2010 - Titles
1. FC HimmelBold - 18
2. Andet Holdet - 2
3. Team Svumpukkel - 2

2011 - Points
1. bordtennis - 3,551
2. Carrington - 2,408
3. york - 2,392

2011 - Titles
1. Trex POWER - 12
2. bordtennis - 8
3. Team Aerox - 5

2012 - Points
1. liverpools year - 4,039
2. bordtennis - 3,263
3. york - 2,461

2012 - Titles
1. liverpools year - 22
2. Silkeborg IF - 5
3. De forsinkede lyn - 4

2013 - Points
1. bordtennis - 3,377
2. liverpools year - 3,258
3. york - 2,822

2013 - Titles
1. liverpools year - 17
2. Moody Bow - 8
3. Stjernen RC - 5

2014 - Points
1.bordtennis - 3,353
2. york - 2,927
3. Thorshammer United - 2,275

2014 - Titles
1. Nobr - 14
2. KKS LechPoznan - 6
3. liverpools year - 6

2015 - Points
1. bordtennis - 3,706
2. liverpools year - 3,465
3. york - 3,059

2015 - Titles
1. bordtennis - 19
2. liverpools year - 17
3. Team Aerox - 3

2016 - Points
1. bordtennis - 3,091
2. Aiki FC - 2,681
3. york - 2,662

2016 - Titles
1. bordtennis - 17
2. liverpools year - 6
3. Aiki FC - 4

2017 - Points
1. bordtennis - 3,021
2. liverpools year - 3,009
3. Aiki FC - 2,415

2017 - Titles
1. liverpools year - 18
2. Tottenham Hotspur - 6
3. bordtennis - 5

2018 - Points
1. bordtennis - 2,922
2. Nico City - 2,124
3. liverpools year - 2,058

2018 - Titles
1. liverpools year - 14
2. bordtennis - 7
3. Brøndby - 6

2019 - Points
1. Centenary Stand - 3,172
2. Nico City - 2,645
3. Canterbury City - 2,134

2019 - Titles
1. Centenary Stand - 18
2. Illuminati FC - 8
3. Aiki FC - 4

2020 - Points
1. Centenary Stand - 3,449
2. SuDoku AFC - 2,410
3. Tottenham Hotspur - 2,233

2020 - Titles
1. Centenary Stand - 20
2. The Danish Vikings - 6
3. Morsø Fighters - 4

2021 - Points
1. Nico City - 2,326
2. Canterbury City - 2,312
3. Aiki FC - 2,271

2021 - Titles
1. Aiki FC - 10
2. Johns Army - 6
3. Faciato FC - 5

2022 - Points
1. Ipswich Town Allstars - 2,715
2. Kiwi Seagulls - 2,503
3. tvtosport - 2,076

2022 - Titles
1. Ipswich Town Allstars - 16
2. tvtosport - 11
3. Atletico Stars - 7

2023 - Points
1. Johns Army - 2,090
2. Sheffield Wednesday - 1,979
3. Buster - 1,862

2023 - Titles
1. SUB 88 - 13
2. Johns Army - 8
3. liverpools year - 6

2024 - Points
1. liverpools year - 2,716
2. liiiiiiiiiiverpool - 2,008
3. bordtennis - 1,932

2024 - Titles
1. Aiki FC - 9
2. Pedersen FK - 7
3. SUB 88 - 7

2025 - Points
1. Solihull Moors FC - 1,400
2. liverpools year - 1,321
3. Thilde United - 1,194

2025 - Titles
1. Solihull Moors FC - 8
2. BIF Elite - 4
3. Thilde United - 4

Cant Score wrote:

The table below shows the all-time (2007-36 to 2025-25) average GD and Points to one decimal place for each position in the Premier League (England) on vman.

Position, GD, Points:
1st: +67.2, 76.3
2nd: +53.2, 69.8
3rd: +38.0, 63.3
4th: +25.5, 57.6
5th: +17.1, 52.7
6th: +9.8, 48.5
7th: +3.3, 44.8
8th: -1.2, 41.7
9th: -5.8, 38.8
10th: -10.3, 35.9
11th: -14.2, 33.2
12th: -19.2, 30.5
13th: -23.5, 27.4
14th: -31.0, 23.6
15th: -40.4, 18.9
16th: -68.6, 10.7

As another way of looking at the above, the below table shows the all-time mode (most common occurring value) of points for each position in the Premier League (England) on vman:

1st: 84
2nd: 65
3rd: 57
4th: 53
5th: 51
6th: 49
7th: 46
8th: 41
9th: 37
10th: 36
11th: 33
12th: 31
13th: 25
14th: 24
15th: 18
16th: 0

In the 257 U23 Premier League seasons on vman, 50 unique clubs have won the U23 Premier League.

Below is a list of clubs who have won the U23 Premier League 5 times or more:

liverpools year Youth squad - 43
Aroma AC Youth squad - 29
Johns Army Youth squad - 23
The Danish Vikings Youth squad - 14
Ejby Academy Youth squad - 12
SUB 88 Youth squad - 12
Spurs Youth squad - 9
Fcmortensen Youth squad - 8
FF City Youth squad - 8
Thilde United Youth squad - 6
Ac dragon IF Youth squad - 5
Solihull Moors FC Youth squad - 5

In the 257 U23 Premier League seasons on vman, 243 unique clubs have played in the U23 Premier League.

The table below shows the all-time U23 Premier League standings (12 teams with most points):



Nakor Youth squad has played the most U23 Premier League matches at 3,498.
Johns Army Youth squad has the most U23 Premier League points at 6,273.
liverpools year Youth squad has the best U23 Premier League GD at 3,350.
UpTheBlades Youth squad has the worst U23 Premier League GD at -1,078.
Kim Jong Unicorns Youth squad has the best U23 Premier League points per game at 3... Only including teams with over 100 games, Bjerringbro Allstars Youth squad has the best U23 Premier League points per game at 2.71.

The most points to be relegated from the U23 Premier League is 30. This has occurred 3 times, twice by york Youth squad and once by Groby united Youth squad, who in 2025-21 was relegated with 30 points and a record highest GD (for a relegated team) of +7.

The best GD in U23 Premier League history was by Johns Army Youth squad in 2020-35 with +84.

The worst GD in U23 Premier League history is a tie at -148 by Kock City Youth squad and Marshmello Youth squad.

The record for lowest GD to win the U23 Premier League is +17 by tspurs Youth squad in 2024-18.

The most points recorded in a U23 Premier League season is the maximum 66, this has occurred 8 times before.

The record for lowest points to win the U23 Premier League is 42 by Stoke City Youth squad in 2022-10

Bonus trivia: The Cant Score Youth squad ranks 81st in the all time U23 Premier League table, having played 176 matches (8 seasons), overall GD of -73 and total points of 218, averaging 1.24 points per game and having a highest finish/best season of 3rd place with 47 points in 2025-22.

Most premier league u23 points all time and best ever goal difference in a season along with 23 titles ill take it here's to much more as not going anywhere yet

Johns Army wrote:

Most premier league u23 points all time and best ever goal difference in a season along with 23 titles ill take it here's to much more as not going anywhere yet

Skint as a fart Buying titles How's those stadiums coming on?

Arsenäl FC wrote:

Johns Army wrote:

Most premier league u23 points all time and best ever goal difference in a season along with 23 titles ill take it here's to much more as not going anywhere yet

Skint as a fart Buying titles How's those stadiums coming on?

I don’t buy titles mr finto there are other teams spending 400,500,600m on a youth team but I compete with them weekly simply by replacing players that aren’t even as good as there but tactics gets me to the titles

See now prem u23 there’s lots of teams upcoming. I’ll compete with them but at more than half the cost.

Who needs more than 64k stadium? unless your top 10 or something consistently you ain’t getting near filling that out..