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New Country Proposal: Romania

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Final Whistle (chataros) 3 February 2025, 15:12
Hello,

As I can see the number of romanian managers is higher than portuguese, but there is no Romanian championship while there is a portuguese one.

I would like to propose the creation of this national competition and allow romanian managers first options in applying for the first seasons

Teufel hunden (Markus NewRun) 3 February 2025, 17:40
If there was an abundance of managers in the game, I could understand the need to expand, but the problem is that we simply can’t even fill out the countries that we have already, so expansion of countries would just make the divisions even more diluted. The game already has to fill in d4-5 or most countries with bot teams that are simply there to fill gaps. We used to have every country filled out to d7-8 and even some countries to d9. But not any more.

Not knocking the idea, just saying it isn’t feasible without further diluting the leagues.

Johns Army (John) Forum moderator 4 February 2025, 09:27
Teufel hunden wrote:
If there was an abundance of managers in the game, I could understand the need to expand, but the problem is that we simply can’t even fill out the countries that we have already, so expansion of countries would just make the divisions even more diluted. The game already has to fill in d4-5 or most countries with bot teams that are simply there to fill gaps. We used to have every country filled out to d7-8 and even some countries to d9. But not any more.

Not knocking the idea, just saying it isn’t feasible without further diluting the leagues.
Option maybe can add more league countries to the game but reduce the amount of leagues that every country has. That way every league can have real players no bots. But you’d have to cap the amount of applicants to the country like they do with the vm World Cup etc so that it’s not overfilled. If makes sense. New players would have to be waiting to join a league but atm there ain’t too much of that happening.

Teufel hunden (Markus NewRun) 4 February 2025, 18:26
Johns Army wrote:
Option maybe can add more league countries to the game but reduce the amount of leagues that every country has. That way every league can have real players no bots. But you’d have to cap the amount of applicants to the country like they do with the vm World Cup etc so that it’s not overfilled. If makes sense. New players would have to be waiting to join a league but atm there ain’t too much of that happening.
Could you imagine a new player being forced to wait to join a league? Or even a long time player being forced to wait to switch leagues? The game would just die much faster and new growth would be impossible. What we really need is an influx of about 100-200k new managers who are active and we would be able to fill the gaps again and probably expand more. Even 50k would do wonders for the community.

Alpha Wolf (Lewis Taylor Brent) 5 February 2025, 06:56
Not enough is done to promote the game sadly. I found the game by pure chance. There is also the problem of the game being solely browser based, this really limits the potential. Who knows, maybe one day something will magically happen.

Not to be off topic too much! Sorry OP.
Yeah, a romanian league would be nice

Johns Army (John) Forum moderator 8 February 2025, 22:47
Teufel hunden wrote:
Johns Army wrote:
Option maybe can add more league countries to the game but reduce the amount of leagues that every country has. That way every league can have real players no bots. But you’d have to cap the amount of applicants to the country like they do with the vm World Cup etc so that it’s not overfilled. If makes sense. New players would have to be waiting to join a league but atm there ain’t too much of that happening.
Could you imagine a new player being forced to wait to join a league? Or even a long time player being forced to wait to switch leagues? The game would just die much faster and new growth would be impossible. What we really need is an influx of about 100-200k new managers who are active and we would be able to fill the gaps again and probably expand more. Even 50k would do wonders for the community.
Let’s be honest this game has been falling off the past few years. New players how many of them actually stay? How many of them are actual new players not people just making a second team or a returning player?

The game needs to become an app that’s the bottom line for years it’s needed it. People use phones more than ever. They don’t search for a manager game like we did all the years ago. They do it on the App Store these days.

Making a few new league countries and shorting the amount of divisions would work right now and make the game feel more competitive even in the lower leagues without bots. If there’s an influx of new players we can always add a new country or an extra division. We shouldn’t have more than 4 divisions imo. Could easily fill them up.

If someone wants to switch country than they can apply like they do now. And if someone is moving countries from the one they applied for than you can swap.

Give it a year or two more this game will fall even lower without changes probably 25-50% of current managers will be gone. Harsh reality.

SuDoku AFC (Crew Member of the year) Crew 8 February 2025, 23:25
The other harsh reality, as I understand it, is that these "app stores" (- something which I know very little about as I am the last living human being without a mobile phone) simply charge such a huge amount to host games that without a massive sign up and retention rate of people then willing to pay for Premium or Pro, the risks involved in the initial outlay could very easily sink the game financially. - As could a large advertising campaign paid for up front with no guarantee of success.
The absolute fact is that to keep going much longer we surely do need more active managers.
I don't know what the answer is, but equally I remain disappointed that previous offers of free user generated promotion on various social media sites fell upon deaf ears, or even worse, were rejected.

Teufel hunden (Markus NewRun) 9 February 2025, 00:04
Johns Army wrote:
Give it a year or two more this game will fall even lower without changes probably 25-50% of current managers will be gone. Harsh reality.
That seems a little extreme, most the player base have been around 10+ years. At that point it’s less a game and more just a part of life. May lose some of the newcomers, but there’s definitely a solid base of players unlikely to abandon the game unless it literally ends.

SuDoku AFC (Crew Member of the year) Crew 9 February 2025, 00:27
Another way to "fill" our current countries (and more) would be to change to a simple linear league structure from the pyramid system we have now.
ie "bin" the Groups below the top Division and have only one league in each division.
That would immediately expand a country with currently 4 full Divisions to having 15!

It might be harder to progress unless the relegation and promotion spots were changed at the same time, but, if that were possible, we could perhaps have Playoffs each Sunday afternoon which could increase interest immensely for the current gap between the cup finals and the season update ...

(More pipe dreams available upon request ... )
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