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The Towns Accounts released (whats yours?)

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Bayern Munich (Benjamin) 8 March 2011, 16:42
I'm running at a loss of 13,328,000 over the last 15 seasons.

It's pretty hard to counterbalance 150mill in training ground upgrades...smiley

Deleted club 8 March 2011, 16:45
I use a complex system that bases profits on average income, half of the players value, players wage and length of service of players with club. However, it does not include stadium improvements nor prize money.

While this means the figure will change on a day to day basis the current figure is 4,669,245

Deleted club 8 March 2011, 16:51
Operating costs are expenses that relate to business operations. Salaries stadium repairs buying players. An operating profit is the company's revenue less expenses. So you buy player x at 2k sell at 4k that is a 2 k profit. However when you buy him it is a 2 k loss.

Happy to discuss further but cf you are running at loss.

Bayern Munich (Benjamin) 8 March 2011, 16:59
The Town wrote:
Operating costs are expenses that relate to business operations. Salaries stadium repairs buying players. An operating profit is the company's revenue less expenses. So you buy player x at 2k sell at 4k that is a 2 k profit. However when you buy him it is a 2 k loss.

Happy to discuss further but cf you are running at loss.
Not to be silly or anything... but isn't the amount of credits you have over the 1000 or so you start with your all time operating profit?

Deleted club 8 March 2011, 17:02
The Town wrote:
Operating costs are expenses that relate to business operations. Salaries stadium repairs buying players. An operating profit is the company's revenue less expenses. So you buy player x at 2k sell at 4k that is a 2 k profit. However when you buy him it is a 2 k loss.

Happy to discuss further but cf you are running at loss.
"An operating profit is the company's revenue less expenses"

That is where you are making the mistake. It is not as simple as income - outgoings

Deleted club 8 March 2011, 17:05
Club Coyote wrote:
I'm running at a loss of 13,328,000 over the last 15 seasons.

It's pretty hard to counterbalance 150mill in training ground upgrades...smiley
That would be dealt with in depreciation in the operating profit calculation which Town has made a mess of. You find out how much the upgrade was, then divide over the length of time it is usable. In this game it is until you stop playing, so you judge it on that. So say you are going to play for 100 seasons, a £100m upgrade costs £1m a season in depreciation (simplified). This is one of many reasons that Towns calculations are messed up.

Deleted club 8 March 2011, 17:06
Yes and no. Someone mentioned a 150 million stadium upgrade. To get 150 million you have to run at 150 million profit. Yet when you spend it there is a big loss.

Everything you have made after the 1000 is profit but not an operating profit.

Deleted club 8 March 2011, 17:07
The Town wrote:
Yes and no. Someone mentioned a 150 million stadium upgrade. To get 150 million you have to run at 150 million profit. Yet when you spend it there is a big loss.

Everything you have made after the 1000 is profit but not an operating profit.
Show us your calculation.

Deleted club 8 March 2011, 17:10
Donkeys XI wrote:
The Town wrote:
Operating costs are expenses that relate to business operations. Salaries stadium repairs buying players. An operating profit is the company's revenue less expenses. So you buy player x at 2k sell at 4k that is a 2 k profit. However when you buy him it is a 2 k loss.

Happy to discuss further but cf you are running at loss.
"An operating profit is the company's revenue less expenses"
F
That is where you are making the mistake. It is not as simple as income - outgoings
Yes it is. Your operating profit for a year and not your business plan / forecast

Deleted club 8 March 2011, 17:18
My basic calculation for a basic game.
Expenditure less income equals operating profit.

Using basle risk assessment for depreciation of products does not apply.

To buy a bigger stadium you need the credits. Once you get it your income should increase. There is no finance lease available in this game.
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