Cheating is bad and has no place in Virtual Manager, I think we all agree. However there seems some confusion, or call it a difference of opinion, about what cheating is, what should be permissible and what should not.
I am advocating that elite (i.e. top division) players doing cosy private deals with each other (via VM fora and mail) is cheating and should be eliminated from VM. None of the several VM Crew or Admin people I have discussed this with so far agree with me, which I have to say is both worrying (as they themselves are sometimes gaining from this "cheating" ) and disappointing, and so I urge you to sign this petition below if you agree with me that cheating should be kicked out of VM and that the administrators in Denmark need to engage with the fact that what they are allowing to happen is wrong, wrong, wrong!
What is the practice?
Players in top divisions, sometimes openly through fora, sometimes secretly via mail, say to other players "would you like to swap leagues with me?". Then at season end instead of changing countries and dropping down the divisions and having to spend a number of weeks (not a huge burden let's face it!) working back up to the top flight via successive promotions, instead they get a "free pass" to replace the other player in his vacated country league top division.
Why is this practice cheating?
Conventionally, how VM is designed, if you choose to swap countries then you are put in the new country's league at the first open slot, usually a lower league (for example 4th to 6th tier). Thus you have to spend maybe 3-5 seasons in the new country working back up to the top flight, taking a significant hit on gate receipts at the same time (as lower division games will attract fewer supporters). This seems entirely appropriate.
By cheating (players making private deals to swap top flight status with each other) then a number of things happen:
1. They do not forego any revenue (by avoiding playing in the lower tiers for a number of seasons) so get away with making vast sums of money (maybe 5 million at a rough estimate) despite choosing to change leagues.
2. It is completely unfair to the other teams in the top flights, as no sooner has an elite club left their league, potentially giving another team there a chance to go for the title, than some other elite team is miraculously parachuted into their league from nowhere, which is unrealistic as well as very, very unfair, distorting the league completely.
It is hard enough for "up and coming" teams to get to the top in this game, but with top teams playing the system to look after their own selfish interests, (in private deals between each other), it makes a mockery of VM's efforts to keep the game straight and sends the clear signal to newbies that cheating in VM is perfectly fine if you are one of the "old boys".
Please sign below if you agree with me. I hope that if enough ordinary players agree, then the VM administrators will finally get the message that it is wrong for top players to distort the game to their own advantage and to the detriment of other players.
The VM administrators in Denmark (that decide the rules for VM) meet periodically. We, the ordinary players, need to send them a very strong and very clear signal that they need to act to stop this unacceptable and absurd practice in our game, which they currently think there is nothing at all wrong with.
Thank you.
I am advocating that elite (i.e. top division) players doing cosy private deals with each other (via VM fora and mail) is cheating and should be eliminated from VM. None of the several VM Crew or Admin people I have discussed this with so far agree with me, which I have to say is both worrying (as they themselves are sometimes gaining from this "cheating" ) and disappointing, and so I urge you to sign this petition below if you agree with me that cheating should be kicked out of VM and that the administrators in Denmark need to engage with the fact that what they are allowing to happen is wrong, wrong, wrong!
What is the practice?
Players in top divisions, sometimes openly through fora, sometimes secretly via mail, say to other players "would you like to swap leagues with me?". Then at season end instead of changing countries and dropping down the divisions and having to spend a number of weeks (not a huge burden let's face it!) working back up to the top flight via successive promotions, instead they get a "free pass" to replace the other player in his vacated country league top division.
Why is this practice cheating?
Conventionally, how VM is designed, if you choose to swap countries then you are put in the new country's league at the first open slot, usually a lower league (for example 4th to 6th tier). Thus you have to spend maybe 3-5 seasons in the new country working back up to the top flight, taking a significant hit on gate receipts at the same time (as lower division games will attract fewer supporters). This seems entirely appropriate.
By cheating (players making private deals to swap top flight status with each other) then a number of things happen:
1. They do not forego any revenue (by avoiding playing in the lower tiers for a number of seasons) so get away with making vast sums of money (maybe 5 million at a rough estimate) despite choosing to change leagues.
2. It is completely unfair to the other teams in the top flights, as no sooner has an elite club left their league, potentially giving another team there a chance to go for the title, than some other elite team is miraculously parachuted into their league from nowhere, which is unrealistic as well as very, very unfair, distorting the league completely.
It is hard enough for "up and coming" teams to get to the top in this game, but with top teams playing the system to look after their own selfish interests, (in private deals between each other), it makes a mockery of VM's efforts to keep the game straight and sends the clear signal to newbies that cheating in VM is perfectly fine if you are one of the "old boys".
Please sign below if you agree with me. I hope that if enough ordinary players agree, then the VM administrators will finally get the message that it is wrong for top players to distort the game to their own advantage and to the detriment of other players.
The VM administrators in Denmark (that decide the rules for VM) meet periodically. We, the ordinary players, need to send them a very strong and very clear signal that they need to act to stop this unacceptable and absurd practice in our game, which they currently think there is nothing at all wrong with.
Thank you.
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