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FC Stoke (Rich) 23 May 2013, 22:57
The Goon Squad wrote:
So am I miss understanding the whole this?
Talent status is given over the players last 12 trains.

The average on a players training page is given over the last 10 trains, or upto 10 trains on your training ground & not the trains from the previous owner.
That is unless you change the day count.

Well that's what I make of it.

The Goon Squad (Very) 23 May 2013, 23:03
Well talents can get stats if they have trained 5 times, but talent status is based on a average, so if we are now being told averages are worked out over 10 trains talent stats must be granted on 10 trains average as it granted on average over all the training grounds in the last 10 or 12 trains

FC Stoke (Rich) 23 May 2013, 23:06
The Goon Squad wrote:
Well talents can get stats if they have trained 5 times, but talent status is based on a average, so if we are now being told averages are worked out over 10 trains talent stats must be granted on 10 trains average as it granted on average over all the training grounds in the last 10 or 12 trains
They can be given the status on five trains then it will be based on the average up to 12 trains...and continually at 12 trains from then on...

Harlem Heroes (NCC Legend) 23 May 2013, 23:09
The Goon Squad wrote:
So am I miss understanding the whole this?
It would appear so.

The Goon Squad (Very) 23 May 2013, 23:58
My bad Sudkurve just cleared it up I'm wrong

FC Scol (Charlie) 8 June 2013, 00:23
Still find this very helpful despite being on the game over 4 year!

Euro Champs FC (Winster) 8 June 2013, 01:00
Yep 12 smiley

Deleted club 7 September 2013, 17:12
Hail To The Redskins wrote:
The thread for all Noob questions, general hints and tips.

1. Forum Etiquette. Always read the FORUM RULES before posting, and do not spam the forums with topics. If you have a question, ask in here and someone will do their best to answer it. In valuations and sales forums, please do not create multiple topics about the same player, duplicate topics are not allowed under the Sales Forum Rules. If you have multiple players you would like to have valued, or to sell, please create just one thread and put all the player links in there, do not create a seperate thread for each player. When creating a topic, please use a relevant title not "?????" and be clear about what you are asking.

2. VM Premium Every club is given a 5 day free trial when the club is registered (To see how long you have left click here). When this expires you will revert to VM Basic unless you pay for Premium. The advantages of Premium are the ability to see a players total stats (With VM Basic, you can see individual stats, but not the combined total), the maximum training ground you can reach on basic is Red (Large training ground), the maximum stadium capacity is limited to 1000 without Premium, VM Premium gives you the ability to create 5 youths per week, with basic, you cannot create any. Without Premium, you cannot use a trainer or scout, but you are able to purchase them - if a basic user purchases a trainer or scout they have wasted their money as they cannot use them. With Premium you can use trainers, see sections 8 and 9 for more info. If your premium runs out however, you will revert back to basic limitations, even if you have expanded your training ground or stadium above them while you have had Premium, or employed a trainer, you will no longer be able to use them above the basic limit.

3. Sponsorship Most people normally ask for 4 x your VIFA points as the base amount and 2 x your VIFA points as a bonus amount. You can locate your VIFA points by clicking your club name and hovering the mouse over your VIFA rank. Sponsorship applications are for the next season, and will be accepted or rejected during the Sunday Update (approx 7pm UK time) and paid during the Sunday update at the end of the season you have been sponsored for. The best time to apply for these is after your last game of the season as during the update your VIFA points get halved so this is the time when you will have the most VIFA points. Apply for sponsorship

4. Making money You make money through gate receipts so inviting other teams to friendlies will earn you money in ticket sales if they accept. Please do not create new forum topics asking for friendlies, there is a thread specifically for that purpose HERE

You can also make money through trading players. The advice here is to buy cheap and sell for more, pick an age group and watch the market for a few hours to see what the prices are like, it's quite easy to work out what is a good deal that way. Once you have got successful in trading in that age range, expand into others.

You do not pay an auction fee if the start price of the auction is less than half the players value. This means that if you can buy someone well under half their value, and u keep listing them on auction just under or at exactly half their value, the auctions cost you nothing and u are guaranteed to make money. EG if a player has a value of 100k, and u buy them for 20k, keep listing them with a start price under 50k you are guaranteed to make a good profit. Players are cheapest during the daytime so keep an eye out for bargains - after 6pm the site gets busier and prices tend to be higher so this is a good time to sell.

5. Talents and youth players Youths CANNOT be traded until they have trained 5 times, if released before this point they will go on auction for 24 hours and then to the free transfers market., the club that releases them will not receive any money if someone buys them on the auction.

Talent players have a high training average and are identified by a small blue T symbol ( ). Talents can only be aged between 15 and 18 years old, after that they do not have a symbol, even if their training is higher than the required level. The Talent status is worked out based on the player's AVERAGE over the course of their last 12 trainings, but can be given after 5 trainings based upon those trainings. Talent prices vary wildly because they are based on the player's potential. It will take a long time for you to work out what a Talent is worth and why. There is the Player valuations forum to help you with that. Talent status is assessed daily at around 1pm UK time, andcan be granted at this time or if a player's average falls below the threshold, the symbol will be removed. Talents can be created on any ground, as it is based on the player's potential. The ratio of talents is about 1 in every 20 youths so if you don't get one in your first week, don't be surprised. Many people who have been on the game for years have created less than 5.

Please see the chart below for basic guidelines for Talent level on each training ground, although these are not exact, they should give you some idea.



6. Wonderkids Wonderkid status is granted between the ages of 17 and 22. It is assessed daily at 1PM UK time. It is identified by a small green WK symbol and is based mainly on stats and stat placement rather than training. For example if you have a 17year old Forward, withexcellent training, and amazing stats but his finishing is rubbish, he is not likely to get the WK as finishing is obviously the most important stat for a Forward. The generally accepted amount of minimum stats is 350 and 17 and 450 at 18 to make a WK but can be given slightly lower occassionally. This means to get WK players must be gaining roughly 3.5 stats per day minimum.

7. Support Tickets Support tickets are not answered immediately. The team are very busy so may take a few days to get back to you. Be patient. They are doing their best and creating threads complaining about the amount of time they are taking will not solve anything. They will get round to you when they can, u are not the only person in the game having to raise support tickets and they work as fast as they can to get through them all. To raise a support ticket CLICK HERE

8. Training Training without a trainer means your team will always be trained on normal intensity on training match. You need a trainer to select the activities and intensity with which your players train. Trainers are expensive and a bad trainer is not worth having, it is a complete waste of money. Youths you create which become Talents will do so without a trainer, and not having a trainer generally fetches a higher price than having one. The players you will have when you are starting out are not going to benefit from having a trainer because they are not good enough. When you do have a trainer, the higher intensity the training, the more energy the players will lose, but the higher the potential for the training. Players with low energy or morale will not train as well as those with high energy and morale. You can train once per day and this cycle begins at 11pm every day - if you don't train in a 24 hour period, then you just lose that training, it doesn't roll over onto the next day or anything like that. For further help with training, take a look at Godlike's Training Guidance

9. Trainers Don't try and run before you can walk, wait until you can afford a trainer, as mentioned above, a bad one is not worth having and they are all expensive. When u can afford a trainer, the only attributes that matter are Youth, Keeper and Outfield - every other stat is irrelevant. These are graded out of 20, i would suggest that 18 is the minimum acceptable stat amount to make it worthwhile having - for example if you are looking for an outfield players trainer then look for one 18 or above in BOTH youth and outfield but as he won't be training your keeper, his keeper stat can be 1, it's irrelevant. Trainer stats DO NOT increase so don't buy one thinking he will get better... To find staff you need to go here: Staff search or have a look in Scouts/Trainers Wanted, feel free to request people to help you find one in here too,

10. Playing players out of position I dont have the exact figures for this, i will update it if i can get hold of them but just to make the point that players played out of position will only play to a certain amount of their ability, not their full potential.

11. Trading Trading always involves an auction. If you buy players from the transfer list then they will go on auction for 15 minutes and you can be outbid. This is to ensure cheating is minimalised. Most activity in an auction takes place in the last 15 minutes or so, so there is no point bidding for great players with 14 hours left on an auction, because you might well be leading it until 14 minutes when you are immediately outbid. Leading an auction ties up your credits so you cannot use them elsewhere. The transfer market is closed from 11pm to 7am everyday, again to minimalise cheating - if you buy a player off the transfer list between these times, the auction will not be 15 minutes, it will be until 7am.

NEVER TRADE WITH FRIENDS OR FAMILY - IT IS NOT NECCESSARY AND THE CHEATHUNTERS WILL FIND YOU AND PUNISH YOU WITH BIG FINES OR BANS. THEY WILL ALSO PUNISH YOU FOR TRADES THAT LOOK SUSPICIOUS - THIS INCLUDES ANOTHER CLUB MAKING OFFERS FOR FAR MORE THAN YOUR PLAYERS ARE WORTH. THIS HAPPENS FROM TIME TO TIME SO IF YOU GET A BID AND IT SEEMS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, IT PROBABLY IS.

12. Prize money You get prize money if you finish in 8th or above in a league - the amount is determined by where you finish and what league you are in, to find out prize money click on your league and then click prizes on the left hand side. This is paid out during the Sunday update at the end of the season.

13. Ticket pricing You should set your ticket prices low (5C) to begin with and then if you are selling out your stadium every week, then move it up by 1C until u are selling out again, then up by another 1C etc. The page to change ticket prices is the stadium page, which can be found by clicking on stadium on the left hand side of your homepage or club profile page (Or clicking HERE. You can check crowds on the match summary pages in the top right hand corner.

The only way to get more fans is by winning matches and climbing the leagues, you will lose fans if you come back down too... Bloody gloryhunters!!

14. Changing Leagues/Countries You can apply to change league at any time during the season, but you will not change until the season has ended. To do so, click on "World" at the top of the page to get to the World Map Page - click on a country and then u get a button appear on the left with "apply to join this league".

15. Bug reports Bug Reports is where you can report any glitches and bugs with the game. This is not the same as raising a support ticket. Support tickets refer to general gameplay issues within your club, such as if you feel you have been unfairly punished, cheat reports, and payment problems. Bug reports refer to a problem within the game that is actually to do with the coding of the game itself and as such will be being experienced by many people (such as this one). To report bugs within the game you can use The Bug report Page

16. Banners and Logos If you would like to request someone make you a Banner/Logo then please post in THE BANNERS AND LOGOS FORUM . Make sure you read the Banner/Logo Forum rules before posting as they are very specific to that forum.

17. Player Values All players are compared to those of the same age and then the better ones get the better value. This is why as your player reaches his birthday he is at his most valuable, because he has the most stats he will have at that age group and therefore is worth more. When he has had his birthday his value will go down as his stats are at the lowest they will be for that birthday year.

A player will have his highest value in the last week before his birthday, then his lowest after his birthday. This is a general guideline and there are exceptions.

Other factors that determine value are the stat placement (Eg a striker needs good finishing etc), whether he is two footed, age, training etc.

18. Scouts Scouts are not very useful until you are one of the bigger teams with millions in the bank and you can afford an army of scouts, having one or two is just a waste of money. The only two factors that matter when employing a scout is discipline and potential assessment. Same as trainers, less than 18 on either one of these means they are not worth employing.

Here is some info explaining what they are and how they work (Thanks to Sean for the contribution)

On the scout page you will see an overview of your scouts and your completed scout reports. To dispatch a scout click the blue arrow next to his name.

The more groups you define, the more players will be observed and the more imprecise will the report become. If you choose fewer group your scout will observe fewer players, but the report will in return be more precise (that is, more registered training passes per player). This is due to the fact, that the more players a scout must observe the higher is the probability that he will miss a given training pass. Besides, this probability is also determined by the scout's discipline and potential assessment.

You must also define the duration of the research. The more days, the more precise results. If you choose few days the scouts will not gather that much data. You can also define maximum age and value.

Lastly, press "Dispatch" to dispatch the scout. The scout will then try to observe as many youth players' training passes as possible in the leagues you have defined.

Below the list of inactive scouts, you will see a list of busy scouts (if you have any). On this list it is shown when a scout is done with his report.

When the scout is done with his work a report containing his results will appear on the list of completed reports. In the report the scout has ranked a number of players. The actual number of players is determined by the discipline of the scout. To the right in the report you can see how many potential points each player has been giving by the scout. The scout must take the players' club's training facility into account when assessing these points. Scouts with a low potential assessment ability are bad at this, so the rankings may be blurry. Luckily, you can checkout the players manually to find out whether he's worth an investment.

19. Stadium Expansion (Section very kindly contributed by AFC SUDOKU ):


PRICES FOR UPGRADING YOUR PITCH:

LEVEL 1 ................. 400C
LEVEL 2 ..............10,000C
LEVEL 3 ........... 190,000C
LEVEL 4 ........ 1,200,000C
LEVEL 5 ........ 4,500,000C
LEVEL 6 .......10,000,000C

TOTAL COST 15,900,400C


PRICES FOR UPGRADING YOUR STADIUM:

LEVEL 1:
E & W STANDS - Capacity ..100 each X 2 = 200 .................… @ 500C each X 2 = 1,000C
N & S STANDS .- Capacity ... 60 each X 2 = 120 …................. @ 400C each X 2 = .. 800C
CORNERS ...... - Capacity .... 20 each X 4 = .80 …..........……. @ 300C each X 4 = 1,200C
TOTAL Capacity ….................................... 400 ........…….….……………....……… 3,000C

LEVEL 2:
E & W STANDS - Capacity .. 250 each X 2 = 500 ….......... @ 35,000C each X 2 = 70,000C
N & S STANDS .- Capacity ...120 each X 2 = 240 .….…..... @ 22,000C each X 2 = 44,000C
CORNERS ...... - Capacity .... 90 each X 4 = 360 ………… @ 20,000C each X 4 = 80,000C
TOTAL additional capacity ........................1,100 .……..……..……….……………. 194,000C
TOTAL STADIUM CAPACITY .…............... 1,500

LEVEL 3:
E & W STANDS - Capacity 850 each X 2 = 1,700 ....… @ 600,000C each X 2 = 1,200,000C
N & S STANDS - Capacity 420 each X 2 = ....840 ....... @ 380,000C each X 2 = .. 760,000C
CORNERS ..... - Capacity 260 each X 4 = . 1,040 ...... @ 240,000C each X 4 = .. 960,000C
TOTAL additional capacity ……................. 3,500 .……….….…….……………... 2,920,000C
TOTAL STADIUM CAPACITY .................… 5,000

LEVEL 4:
E & W STANDS-Capacity 3,600 each X 2 = 7,200 ... @ 4,068,000C each X 2 = 8,136,000C
N & S STANDS -Capacity 1,800 each X 2 = 3,600 ... @ 2,605,000C each X 2 = 5,210,000C
CORNERS...... -Capacity 1,050 each X 4 = 4,200 ... @ 1,680,000C each X 4 = 6,720,000C
TOTAL additional capacity …....................15,000 .………...…..………………. 20,066,000C
TOTAL STADIUM CAPACITY ................... 20,000

LEVEL 5:
E & W STANDS-Capacity 9,600 each X2= 19,200 .. @ 18,980,000C each X2= 37,960,000C
N & S STANDS -Capacity 4,800 each X2= .9,600 ... @ 12,160,000C each X2= 24,320,000C
CORNERS ..... -Capacity 2,800 each X4= 11,200 ... @ .7,840,000C each X4= 31,360,000C
TOTAL additional capacity …................... 40,000 .…….…..…..………………. 93,640,000C
TOTAL STADIUM CAPACITY …................ 60,000

LEVEL 6:
E & W STANDS-Capacity 14,400 each X2= 18,800 @ 58,300,000C each X2= 116,600,000C
N & S STANDS -Capacity . 7,200 each.X2= 14,400 @ 37,400,000C each X2= .74,800,000C
CORNERS ..... -Capacity . 4,200 each X4= 16,800 @ 24,100,000C each X4= .96,400,000C
TOTAL additional capacity …..................... 60,000 ......….......……………… 287,800,000C
TOTAL STADIUM CAPACITY ................... 120,000

Thats about all I can think of at the moment. This thread will be constantly updated and hopefully should help the new players out and keeps all the noob questions in one place for future reference.

Great Western Railway (Brexit Now) 22 September 2013, 08:26
I think stuff should be added to this:

1) About how to start the game - by getting players off auction for 1c, rather than getting worse players off the t/l, for more money.

2) Premium - How much it costs, link here
http://www.virtualmanager.com/forums/topics/1047845-how-to-buy-premium-if-you-are-untrusting-or-young

3) Ways of making money & untrained youths

4) Stadium Repair...?

Deleted club 22 September 2013, 08:33
South Connect Trains wrote:
I think stuff should be added to this:

1) About how to start the game - by getting players off auction for 1c, rather than getting worse players off the t/l, for more money.

4) Stadium Repair...?
These Ive tried in the past and I only seem to get negative feedback from it
South Connect Trains wrote:
Done this but looks like its going to go the same way
South Connect Trains wrote:
3) Ways of making money & untrained youths
Can be done, but because different people are experts in different methods, IMO, couldnt be done by one person.


Also, IMO, I think this particular thread should be locked and the whole thing moved to a new forum. Perhaps with the help of the mods we could set up a whole new forum in the main International forums. In fact Im going to suggest it now. One entire forum dedicated to noobs where its easy to find, so we end up with

General
Player Valuations
Player Sales
etc etc
Off Topic
Help and Assistance
Locked treads etc etc

In fact, if the mods of sorted out the sub forums (I knwo they can do it in Danish) then perhaps Help and Assistance could be a sub forum of General?
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